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03/10
March 4th Day of Action: A Big Nothingburger But….
by John Galt
March 5, 2010
As a general rule, I tend to avoid these types of commentaries but just out of that insane bit of curiosity that I have, I decided to see what happened in Orlando and Tallahassee and across the nation and just who was involved as part of the driving forces behind this “Day of Action” where maybe hundreds of people in Florida (100 estimated in Orlando per the Orlando Sentinel and 250 in Tallahassee per the Tallahassee Democrat) took part. Following the advice of several talk show hosts, I decided to follow the banner and see what all of this was about, having experienced the left wing lunacy during my college days as the “people” protested Reagan’s anti-Communist stances.
Following the stories, the Google search and more, here is the master list of “supporters” of today’s day of action straight from www.defendeducation.org and if some of the names blow your mind, it will not take much to realize why I am somewhat concerned about the noise from the fringe today:
ENDORSED BY (list in formation):
Organizations
The 1212 Community, Bronx, New York
5c Cultural Center, Lower East Side, New York City
The Adjunct Project, CUNY Graduate Center, New York City
AFSCME 3800, University of Minnesota Clerical Workers
AFT Local 1839, New Jersey City University
All Nations Alliance
Anakbayan Los Angeles
Anakbayan New York/New Jersey, Jersey City, NJ
Anthropology Graduate Student Association, UT Austin
Associated Students of Portland State University Executive Staff
ASU Resist, Arizona State University, Tempe
Augusta State University Political Science Club, Georgia
Autonomedia
AZ Education Association
Bail Out the People Movement
Baltimore Algebra Project
Baltimore Solidarity Center
BAYAN-USA
Cal Poly Unite to Save Public Education, Cal Poly San Luis Obispo
California Prison Moratorium Project
California State University Employees Union
Californians for Justice, Oakland
Campus Antiwar Network (CAN)
Chicago World Can’t Wait
Chop from the Top Coalition, University of Minnesota
Coalition for Community Justice, Eckerd College, St. Petersburg, FL
Coalition for Equal Quality Education, Boston
Coalition for Public Education / Coalición por la Educación Pública, New York City
Coalition for Social Reform, UMass-Lowell
Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action, Integration, and Immigrant Rights and Fight for Equality By Any Means Necessary (BAMN)
Committee for Revolutionizing the AcaDemy (ComRAD), University of Minnesota
Community Organizing Center for Mother Earth, Columbus, Ohio
Connecticut Students Against the War
Cornell Organization for Labor Action, Ithaca, New York
CUNY Campaign to Defend Education, New York City
Democracy Insurgent, Seattle
The Democratic Left @ GWU, George Washington University, Washington, D.C.
Department of English, Indiana University of Pennsylvania, Indiana, Pennsylvania
DestroyIndustrY, Raleigh, NC
East Village Community School Parents Association, New York City
Education For All, San Diego
Feminist Students UNITED UNC-Chapel Hill, North Carolina
Fight Imperialism, Stand Together
Free UCR Alliance, UC Riverside
Freedom Road Socialist Organization
Freedom Socialist Party
George Mason University Graduate and Professional Student Association (GAPSA), Fairfax, Virginia
Georgia State University Progressive Student Alliance
Giant Record Corporation, Amherst, MA
Graduate Employee and Student Organization, Yale University
Graduate Employees’ Organization, AFT/IFT 6300, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Graduate Student Employees Union, SUNY Stony Brook
Graduate Student Workers United, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis-St. Paul
Graduate Students United, University of Chicago
Grassroots Education Movement, New York City
Hawai’i Solidarity Committee
Human Rights Action Committee, Framingham State College, Massachusetts
Indiana University of Pennsylvania Council of Chairs, Indiana, Pennsylvania
Institute for Critical Animal Studies
International Socialist Organization
International Workers and Students for Justice, University of Washington in Seattle
The Kennebunks Peace Department
L.A. County Peace & Freedom Party
La Voz de los Trabajadores- LIT, California
Latin American Students Association at UCR, Riverside, CA
League for the Revolutionary Party, New York City
Liberty Tree Foundation
Low-Income Student Alliance, New School University, New York City
Lucha, New York City
March 4 Organizing Committee, CSU Monterey Bay
Massachusetts Student Action Coalition
Massachusetts Students Uniting
May 1st Coalition for Worker & Immigrant Rights, New York City
Million Worker March Movement
Movement for a Democratic Society
National MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán)
Movimiento Estudiantil Chican@ de Aztlán (MEChA), Milwaukee
Movimiento Estudiantil Chican@ de Aztlán (MEChA), UC San Diego
Movimiento Estudiantil Chican@ de Aztlán (MEChA), USC
National Assembly to End the Iraq & Afghanistan Wars & Occupations
Network to Fight for Economic Justice
New School in Exile, New York City
New York State Youth Leadership Council
NYC Anti-War Coalition
New York City Labor Against the War (NYCLAW)
Northbay Uprising, Vallejo, California
Oakland Education Association
Olympia Coalition for a Fair Budget, Olympia, WA
Pan American Solidarity Organization (PASO), Portland State University
People’s Organization for Progress, Newark, NJ
Peoples Video Network
p.o.n.d. records
Pride and Equity Faculty and Staff Association, UT Austin
Progressive Democrats of America, Ohio
Progressive Faculty Network of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Progressive Student Alliance, University of Florida
Progressive Student Alliance, University of Memphis
Public Higher Education Network of Massachusetts (PHENOM)
Purchase Polis, SUNY Purchase
PUSH: Ideas into Action, SUNY Purchase
Queens College Antiwar Coalition
Queer People Of Color Action
Radical Student Union, Bard College
Radical Women
Rebel Diaz Arts Collective, Bronx, NY
Recreate ‘68 Alliance
Rhode Island Unemployed Council
Riverside Latino Voter Project, Riverside, CA
Santa Monica College Students for Social Justice
Save LSU, Baton Rouge
Seventh Generation Nation, Putatoi
The Silent Radio DJs
Small Schools Workshop, Chicago
Social Anarchists for Liberty & Justice, South California
Social Justice Alliance, SUNY Stony Brook
Social Justice Alliance, UC Riverside, California
Socialism Now!, Chicago
Socialist Alternative
Socialist Organizer
Socialist Party of Connecticut
Socialist Party USA
Solidarity
S.O.S. Save Our Schools Coalition, Providence, RI
SOUL School of Unity & Liberation, Oakland
Space, Time, Research Collective, CUNY Graduate Center
SpeakOut – the Institute for Democratic Education & Culture, Oakland, CA
Straight and Gay Alliance (SAGA), City College of New York
Students Promoting Engagement Through Activism and Knowledge (SPEAK), Georgia State University
Student / Farmworker Alliance
The Student Insurgent, Eugene, Oregon
Student Labor Action Project (SLAP)
Students for a Democratic Society
Students for a Democratic Society, Animas, Durango, Coloardo
Students for a Democratic Society, Chicago
Students for a Democratic Society, College Park, University of Maryland
Students for a Democratic Society, Diablo Valley College, Pleasant Hill, California
Students for a Democratic Society, Gainesville Area
Students for a Democratic Society, Milwaukee
Students for a Democratic Society / Movement for a Democratic Society, Michigan State University
Students for a Democratic Society, Oklahoma
Students for a Democratic Society, Rochester
Students for a Democratic Society, Syracuse
Students for a Democratic Society, Temple University, Philadelphia
Students for a Democratic Society, TFHS
Students for a Democratic Society, UNC-Asheville
Students for a Democratic Society, UNC-Chapel Hill
Students for a Democratic Society, UNC-Charlotte
Students for a Democratic Society, University of Houston
Students for a Democratic Society, University of Minnesota
Students for a Democratic Society, University of North Dakota
Students for a Democratic Society, University of Tuscaloosa
Students for a Democratic Society, Waukesha, Wisconsin
Students for a Democratic Society, West Chester, Pennsylvania
Students for Educational Rights, City College of New York
Students for Quality Education, Cal Poly Pomona Chapter
Students for Social Action, Virginia Commonwealth University, VCU
Students for Unity, Portland State University
Students Taking Action to Reclaim our Education, University of Maryland
Students United for Palestinian Equal Rights, Portland State University
SUNY Downstate College of Health Related Professions Council
Take Back NYU!, New York City
Take Back WBAI Coalition, New York City
Teachers 4 Justice Now, New York City
Teachers as Leaders in Newark, New Jersey
Teachers for a Just Contract, New York City
Teachers Unite, New York City
Texas State Employees Union
Third Coast Activist Resource Center, Austin, Texas
Tidewater Labor Support Committee, The College of William and Mary, Virginia
TWU 100, New York City
UCSD Coalition for Educational Justice
Undergraduate Graduate Alliance (UGA) at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
United Council of UW Students, Wisconsin
United In Campaign Against Budget Cuts, University of Illinois-Chicago
United Socialists of Pittsburgh State
United States Student Association (USSA)
United Students Against Sweatshops (USAS)
University Democrats, UT Austin
University of Massachusetts-Lowell Coalition for Social Reform
University of Washington Student Worker Coalition, Seattle
USC Students for Justice in Palestine
UT Austin Stop the Cuts Coalition
UTLA / Project Great Futures / CAMS
UW-Milwaukee Education Rights Campaign
UW-Whitewater P.E.A.C.E., Whitewater, Wisconsin
Workers Action
Workers World Party
Young Democratic SocialistsInternational Endorsers
Anakbayan Philippines
International League of Peoples Struggle Youth, Philippines
League of Filipino Students
National Union of Students of the Philippines
Socialist Student Front, Bangladesh
Solidary Lithuanian Students (SOLISTs), Vilnius, Lithuania
Student Christian Movement of the Philippines
Student Representative Body of the University of Marburg, Germany
Teachers Unity Forum, Kerala, India
Concerned yet? Well, here are some random photos with proper accreditation and some circles drawn by myself to highlight the signs:
From Orlando, FL WDBO Television:
It is good to see that stoners, who slept through most of the classes in high school and college support “higher” education still. I guess a free ride on the taxpayer’s ticket is the way to go according to them and they are looking for any excuse to legalize marijuana. With this President, they may get their wish. Of course then they will whine about the taxes on it….
From the Athens-Banner Newspaper (Athens, GA) where obviously the Socialists need to come on down south again and edumucate them thar ‘necks about how to make proper protest signs:
The best photos are of course from California, which is to be expected as I scanned numerous other newspapers and found nothing mentioned about any “Day of Action” nor protests at local colleges. Maybe it was due to all the global warming on the ground blocking their way up north. Ah well, on to the California pictures and they are mind blowing, most are from the San Francisco Chronicle and L.A. Times:
I wasn’t aware that the UAW had so much money as to support boycotts and protests around the nation. Wait a second, I forgot; we the taxpayers bailed their butts out at G.M. and Chrysler so they have more free time and unlimited funds than ever to attack freedom. Never mind.
Hmmm. 1968 and “Fund Schools, not War”….are you listening Mr. Obama? Probably not, but it is interesting to see people protesting “his” military…..
Hell, I took courses on it.
I’ve looked again.
Nope, nothing about “education” being a right.
Them students ain’t been learnt right.
This photo is from the L.A. Times, of high school students participating in the protests. I shall let the photo speak for itself.
So just who or what is the SDS or Students for a Democratic Society? This is an excerpt from their home page at www.newsds.org :
THINK GLOBALLY, ACT LOCALLY
SDS is a chapter-based national organization. It is made up of over 150 local chapters, some as small as 3 people, some as large as 100, who organize locally around local issues. Together, these chapters are building a popular student movement. Each chapter specializes in issues that affect their community; whether it is accessible and quality education, immigration raids and detentions, climate change and climate justice, ending war profiteering, or other issues. Out of our many issues will arise one strong youth movement for peace and justice, led by a generation of experienced, trained student leaders who learned their organizing skills as students.
OUR PLACE IN THE MOVEMENT
Students for a Democratic Society is dedicated to making the connections between students and peoples struggles, and between issues and the bigger systems of which they are a part. We ground our work in an understanding of how our issues intersect, how our struggles are connected, and how to actively question and creatively approach those things that separate us. We recognize the importance of fighting injustice on multiple fronts. We know that individual struggles are never won alone.
We are struggling to change a society which depends upon multiple and reciprocal systems of oppression and domination for its survival: racism and white supremacy, capitalism, patriarchy, heterosexism and transphobia, authoritarianism and imperialism, among others. In order to create enduring change in such a society, SDS takes on these systems by nourishing interconnected and mutually sustaining struggles of liberation. We aim to consciously and effectively target systems of oppression through collaborative struggle rooted in concrete organizing. We expand our understanding of issues often viewed as singular to include a more complex analysis of how peoples struggles are related and interdependent.
The bolded and italicized portions are my addition to the quoted section above and it is because of my direct concern. This phrase:
“trained student leaders who learned their organizing skills as students.”
should remind everyone of someone quite important to today’s discussion:
While it might seem amusing, it would appear that with his representation of the radical left now dominant in our society and making it chic to be a communist again, the concerns we should all have are the actions and intentions not covered by the mainstream media and inaccessible to the alternative media. I strongly urge all of my readers and patriots concerned about the new red tide swelling in Washington, D.C. and on the college campuses of our nation to pay attention to these efforts, including the one like today. Because you never know where they will lead to and how much damage to our freedoms they can cause.
For laughs, I do have one poster from one of the groups that only those who can not stand “Progressives” and socialists will get a belly laugh from:
And you thought that what we used to see on Jerry Springer in the 1990′s was lunacy, well Jerry (who lives not too far from me), I challenge you to out-nut these nutcases. Because spiritual progressives require all Americans to ascend to a new dimensional plane to fight their devious plans to usurp our freedoms via the 7th Dimension.



MRBIGMUTTS
05.03.10
07:16
JOHN, the photos and your comments are great but I feel you missed some key points. While the first color photo is of poor quality, the second one provides a treasure of information to glean from it. Is the blonde haired woman wearing a leather coat? Why does the middle young lady need a neck scarf in California, is it really that cold there? Is that “hair gel” in the young mans hair? How much did those sunglasses costs? How expensive is the jewelry that all three of them are wearing?
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Look at the photo below that. Look at all of the shoes in that photograph. Especially, the tan muk-luk boots. How much did these cost? They appear to be all new. See any holes or wore out spots in any of those jeans? Count the number of people in each photo. What a massive protest? Seems that the rest of the students(99.9% of them)are either studying or have better things to do.
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These do not seem like people truly worried about spending cuts. They are spending too much on clothes and hair cair products? If they would take the money they have spent on these items and put towards the tution rate increases they wouldnt have a problem.
Looks to me that Daddy and Mommy can afford to continue sending them to that school until they graduate in 5-7 years.
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So they have to learn how to budget their beer money, they need to get over that. The rest of us in America are having to do the same and much worse.
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Thanks for turning me onto http://www.spiritualprogressives.org too. After extensive reading of that site and all it has to offer I won 1st place in a “Spot the Loon” contest. Next time, could we have a bigger “belly laugh” warning notice.
Administrator
05.03.10
10:19
Oh yes, MrBigMutts, I just posted them for everyone to detect the hypocrisy and you spotted it immediately. The MSM did not post, if you’ll notice, any of the pictures of the Communist Party signs…..an observation I made immediately in my search for them. They are learning how to hide their “radical” side but it will not work as they are as Marxist as many of the protesters.-John
MaryK
05.03.10
13:30
SDS! I remember my days on the UMD campus with SDS recruiters. They protested Johnson’s policies and now taking on Obama they are repeating the same idiocy. It was Bush you needed to protest, dolts! Your bread and butter in the country is the democrat party. Pass the popcorn…
Bilbo cuban
05.03.10
16:16
John,
I’m sending emails to everyone I know, and posting on your website, we need to stop the country for 48 hours, use the same tools they use, have a massive strike all over the US and pick up a date to declare it 48 hours without hard working americans concerned about our nation. Do you think we can do it to send a message.
Other Paul
06.03.10
03:12
I highly recommend hitting the Beyt Tikkun tab in the “progressives” site and reading the “Healing from Post Traumatic Abandoned-by-Obama Syndrome” piece. You may want to liquor-up first, though.
Yes, Beyt’s vote counts the same as yours. Holy $#(^.
Mardochee Augustin
06.03.10
04:22
this is the first sign of the chaos that is coming. I’m a college freshman and i have talked with types in high school and right now in college. they do not know what communism is and what it does to nations. they know that the country is going to collapse. when things south these will the idiots that will do massive protesting in the streets just like greece. but they have another thing coming if they want to turn this nation away from Washington,Madison,Jeferson,Franklin and head us into Lenin,Stalin,Marx,Feuerbach and the others because there are patriotic americans and young ones like me. but i think it will end bloody.
Mikey
06.03.10
14:50
This is not going to end well, regardless of what people with common sense and decency think. This is like living in a novel, Atlas Shrugged. Spiritual Progressives? Right out of the freaking novel…
Doing battle with these guys, and trying to ‘save the system’, is useless. You will end up beaten, bloody and exhausted. Let them ‘win’…leave, Go Galt. Watch what happens without productive people, feeding them. A 48 hour strike is logical, but it will nothing but a blip. Remember the tea parties in DC? And how many there were there? And how the media said there were ‘only’ 64,000 people there? hahaha, you think you can beat these bastards at their own game?
Just Ask the question;
“Who is John Galt?”
(That will scare the shi* out of ‘em if nothing else, at least, those with half a brain.)
Carl Livingston
07.03.10
04:23
I’ve thought about a work interruption strike. The problem is that many won’t do it as, their bills and livelihood are still too important.
No, a guy like me who is unemployed could probably go protest, but a work strike won’t be effective if it’s just the unemployed and homeless that are visible.
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Yes, I remember the 1,000,000,000 to 2 million plus demonstration on capital hill.
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And then there was the one later in the year, as well.
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And then there were the “Town-Hall” meetings.
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Those who care about this country were portrayed as villains!
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The fact is, any resources you have should be spent on preparing for the coming collapse. And it’s coming soon! It might be this coming week, next month, next year or maybe it’ll even take 2 or 3 years. But the collapse is coming.
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And when the collapse does come, it’ll be the end of this country, as you’ve known it all of your previous lives.
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There is only one way to stop this, and the American people simply don’t have the will (or stomach) for the blood that would run in the American city streets to actually stop this!
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So if you are awake, the absolute best thing you can do is prepare – buy food, supplies such as camping equipment, clothes, barter items, guns ammunition, and pray for the mind-set and will to survive what is coming to a future near you!!!
Guerrera
07.03.10
16:36
I am a California college student and unlike the lady in the black leather trenchcoat, whose probably not, i feel the budget cuts.
We have 40 people in our academic classes at my community college, even taking role takes 10 minutes out of our class time.
We arent really going to be taking many tests this semester -its too expensive to make copies so they wont do it, the teachers didnt give us syllabi this semester so i dont really have a guideline to reference.
50% of my income comes from the financial aid i recieve in school and while the 6,000 dollars they give me helps, i don’t eat food until i come home from school at 6, and i didnt pay for the subway for the first two months of school because i had no money.
Teachers are being cut, they arent being given offices, which they use to assist students with work.
And out of all of this, my books still cost 250 dollars this semester.
Now, this is only a little sliver of what its like.
Dont forget that they are cutting summer school, arts programs, music programs.
Core classes are compromised and if the government doesnt figure something out we are going to end up with a generation of partially educated people.
Oh, and just because you smoked weed all through highschool and slept all the time doesnt mean that everyone else who smokes is like that.
i have a 3.8 fucker.
Next month when you get bored, why dont you take a look at the pictures from the Nazi Rally in downtown LA, maybe youll like their outfits. Youll see me on the other side of the street with the people.
If you dont want to show your support for people, go be by your self.
Other Paul
07.03.10
19:11
Sorry, I should have whetted your appetite on my recommendation to read the “progressive” site’s “Abandoned by…” article.
Here’s a sampler:
” Article Two: Congress shall require that any corporation with an income of over $100 million per year must obtain a new corporate charter once every five years, and that charter will only be granted to those corporations that can prove a satisfactory history of social, environmental and ethical responsibility to a grand jury of ordinary citizens.”
Ok, I’ll go back to the bathtub now and allow my slit wrists to efficiently drain away my vital fluids.
Administrator
07.03.10
20:51
Uh-Oh. Thou has violated COMMANDMENT#1:
Don’t F*** with the owner of the bandwidth.
Now first, I shall reply in public, y’all can reply either way, on the board or privately to:
gotogreatheights@gmail.com
Of course it’s probably his “spam” email box because the Eunich probably would never put his real email address up on a posting like that.
I owuld love to know what you have a 3.8 in? Ethnic studies? Communist history? Spitting on Soldiers? Or perhaps being a leech which sucks the blood out of the hard working people because you and your nutless friends (no offense meant to the All-American Lesbian Socialist Motorcycle Battalion at each school) think you are f’ing “entitled” to an education. One more time dickweed, where does it say in the Bill of Rights you are entitled to steal from us, the producers?
Oh, that’s right, you hated our founding fathers, you love Che, Mao and that Communist bastard running our nation now. My bad.
I’ve posted your steaming pile in full for everyone to read. Enjoy it. Soak it in. And reply to the one question:
What is your major and are you paying for your education on your own dime?
If Mommy and Daddy are helping that’s just ducky. If you’re sucking off of the public teet, then you’re just another piece of crap just like all those dope smoking music stealing lazy assed Marxists steaming piles in the photos and you can kiss my hairy ass.
-Peace, Love and all that crap
John
Perspective
07.03.10
22:09
@Guerrera: You got off easy. JG was probably feeling charitable since it is Sunday. He could have pointed out that even after getting a degree from a college or university, what’s being taught there today leaves the typical student far less than half educated. Or he could have pointed out that your K-12 education missed driving home the difference between “whose” and “who’s” (or “who is”). Or “recieve” is spelled “receive” (the general rule is i before e except after c). WordPress even gives hints on misspelled words, which is what that red squiggly line is about.
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Your entire little diatribe is poorly constructed. You might take a copy to your English teacher for pointers on how to do better. So a 3.8 GPA doesn’t say much to me and perhaps not much to a future employer.
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JG could have pointed out, but didn’t, that taking attendance in college is a stupid waste of class time. I recall in college that no attendance was taken. The students paid for the class and if they didn’t want to show up to learn, well that was their decision. College isn’t grade school. In theory one is an adult by the time one gets to college. That implies personal responsibility.
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Then there is the whole rant about life in the classroom. You make a fine argument that whatever community college you are attending should be shut down. Big hint here: they are stealing your time and money with their incompetence. If it is an education you want, take some semesters off, save up and go to a real institution of higher learning. In the meantime, hit the library and do some self directed study. You will be further ahead than your current path is taking you.
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JG hinted at it, but perhaps you missed it: politeness counts. You are a visitor here, just like all of us. JG is tolerant of diverse viewpoints but he does not suffer fools gladly (ring a bell from any English Literature class you might have had?). By all means express a viewpoint. Construct your response to support your argument. Show that some of the higher functions of thought have been engaged.
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I could go on but I fear I am talking to the wall (an expression used to denote a waste of time). Do keep an eye out for Obediah. At least you will have someone to talk to while living under whatever bridge becomes your future home.
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Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. Sir Winston Churchill, British politician(1874 – 1965)
Administrator
07.03.10
22:18
Perspective, your “perspective” is spot on. I was being nice. I limited my obscenities to the bare minimum in my response and did not point out the obvious:
A monkey even understands the concept of spell check.
MRBIGMUTTS
08.03.10
22:26
JG–Why hold back? They are not holding back and will never let us forget it either as parade about in all of their glorious ignorance of the real world. Living in the basement of their parents house, playing video games and smoking pot will never allow them to question their communists leaders/professors on any grounds. In otherwords, they will always take orders and never once think about who and why those orders have been given.
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What will they do when the SHTF and people are being attacked and killed in the streets. I am sure that they will run back to the basement and stay there until the evil and hungry hordes of the unprepared citizens come to their neighborhood to rob, rape and burn those very same houses they are sheltering in. Yes, GUERRERA and his friends will die without a fight. All because some socialist teacher/professor told them what to think and not to think for themselves.
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JG, last night I had a epiphany about your novel you have written. Many readers have tried to pick it apart as mostly untrue and say it could never happen.
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Since California is in worse financial shape than Greece and the European Union is ready to collapse. I ask you and your readers to think about making the following change to your story and see if more readers think of this as more plausible to occur.
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Change your story events to occur only in California as a start to the SHTF. While many thought our government didnt have all of the resources to go nationwide with their efforts at the same time, doing it a statewide level does seem more possible to me. They have the military resources and personnel to be used against the people. More help could be flown in and even more of these are located right across state borders to assist them if needed. These bordering states will not want the people or the trouble they will cause and they will shut down access into theirs. The entire state of California has a deep hatred for firearms and many people will be left unprotected as roving gangs of thugs and law breaking government officials sweep thru the state doing whatever they please to whomever they want.
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IMHO, this will be the sign for the rest of us to hunker down so that it doesnt happen to us. In fact, the rest of us will make final preparations to ensure it doesnt happen to us. The trouble from all of this will show everyone in America what the Far Left wants for all of us. Yes, I believe that California is going to burn itself to the ground and many innocent and not so innocent lives will be lost.
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There is nothing any of us can do to change it, it has to happen to allow the rest of the country to come back from the ramifications of Communists/Islamist terrorists/illegal immigrants trying to take over our country. Once California is burning to the ground the rest of the non-believers across America will enter the fight on our side to put down this threat to our way of life.
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Like you(JG) have said in your post “California is toast”. If you do live in California I suggest that you seriously think long and hard about continuing to live there. You are indeed in serious danger and you have been warned again. Leave the state now and live or stay and DIE with the rest.
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THAT IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!
Perspective
09.03.10
21:18
@Mrbigmutts: Regarding your epiphany on California being the trigger for the TSHTF, at least in the US:
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Let me step back a bit from that idea, go back a bit in time and come forward to today. When JG decided to write the series, like many of us here he was looking at events/policies/decisions, probably from the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 (though creation of the Bank of England is another valid starting point). Every time in history that an irredeemable monetary system has been created it has ended in failure. The larger and more powerful the major power was, the longer (typically) the run till failure. But failure will occur; it is inherent in the design of such of system.
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Since people in general aren’t taught economics (other than the Keynesian type) or history, very few of them actually do the research independently to understand the system and see where it leads. This fraud is greatly assisted by the delay between cause and effect becoming evident. The delay can be long enough that the true cause of the effect is shifted to another, more recent, event. People in general are more focused on the short term, which is what the recent day trading and borrow to have something now mentality shows (America being the prime example).
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Eventually the end game approaches though. The actual shape of the end game is influenced by more contemporary events. So at the time JG started writing (more accurately, thinking about writing) TDTDD, I imagine he was looking at the big picture (irredeemable currency) and fitting current events of the time (mid 2009) to trigger an end game. Which is why Retired Old Hack suggested writing in the everlasting present: events will always overtake the present and shift the final form of the endgame (especially in regards to timing). This is also why JG was careful to label TDTDD as fiction.
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Still, the basic premise and the lesson JG was trying to impart remain intact. The lesson was put in novel form to make it interesting, increase the number of readers, and hopefully get people thinking. And, as is typical of many humans, several posters quibbled about this or that in the novel being unrealistic. This kind of thinking both misses the larger picture and leads to the (often unspoken) conclusion/rationalization that because a certain item is implausible (to them), what I’m labeling “the end game” won’t happen. So they will put off vital preparations till “tomorrow” since February 21st has come and gone and the system is still going.
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So to all you casual readers who don’t post, let me assure you “the end game” is alive and well. Only the timing and series of events leading up to its trigger remain open to debate. Further, when the trigger is pulled, events will unfold in a fast and furious fashion, just like the pace of JG’s novel.
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Back to your epiphany on California being the trigger and JG rewriting to fit that as the triggering event. I don’t see JG rewriting things, as the basic lesson from the original novel remains intact. Like many of us, JG has limited time and constantly rewriting to fit the most current series of events would be a full time job. Still, that doesn’t stop the rest of us from speculating on a certain this or that evolving into the trigger event. Or putting together a scenario based on recent events on where we are, today, on the approach to “the end game”. For more than just predicting when the end game will occur, it is looking at recent events in the hope that a different outcome other than “Extinction” might result (one of JG’s points for writing TDTDD).
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I look at it this way: Past events will trigger a series of crises, among them a currency crisis here in the USA. That crisis will put things in flux, probably to the point of open rebellion. Various groups will use that crisis as their opportunity to advance their cause or ideology. For me, I’m backing the group(s) that espouses personal liberty and the rights documented in the Bill of Rights and in the Constitution. (another reason for JG not to rewrite the novel as time needs to be spent discussing the Guerrera attitude for instance).
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That’s why I put together that post on March 7th under “So Much for Obama Telling the Chicoms What to Do”. There I described what I believe to be relevant events from what I consider to be reputable sources, which could have an effect on the end game, the timing, and perhaps even the outcome. I even speculated a bit on O’s major options between now and the election. Options, which might or might not be his game plan, but ones that I think events may force him (and his handlers) into.
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Let me expand a bit on your idea that California’s debt issue will be the triggering event for the TSHTF. First, the brown stuff has already hit the fan. It has been hitting the fan in varying amounts for years now. Most people just don’t or won’t recognize it and choose to ignore it. Still to come is an amount of the stuff, enough which people in general won’t be able to ignore. Evidently even with the tens of millions unemployed, the critical mass number needs to be larger. Today’s reality, viewed from a couple of years ago, would have surpassed my then minimum expectations for things flying apart.
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Some of you perhaps follow Mr. Sinclair’s site and the writings of Martin Armstrong. Both of these gentlemen describe the sociopaths amongst the Wall Street crowd that write those derivative contracts. These boyz are out for one thing: the money. I’ll bet even the sociopaths are a bit amazed that things continue to progress which allow them, legally, to keep doing the damage they are so good at. From their viewpoint the sun is still shining so they are going to continue to make hay. Greece is currently in play. Next will be more of the weaker Club Med countries, then on to England and lastly, the US states and the US itself. That in a nutshell is Mr. Sinclair’s basic outline. As events stand today absolutely nothing is being done to rein them or this plan in.
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Well, almost nothing. China did bar them from writing more contracts in their country. China even went so far as to say they wouldn’t pay on certain contracts that were wrote. Italy has done some of that too. But by and large the sociopaths still have a large playground to operate in and the cops still aren’t knocking on their doors to take them away.
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So they will continue to press and move up the food chain, saving the biggest and best for last. Their game, as I see it, is for them to get as far as they can. Maybe they don’t get all the way to the US before things fall apart. At which point they might think that hunkering down, letting things settle and then coming out again for new opportunities will be possible. Or maybe they aren’t thinking that far ahead. I’m not an expert on sociopaths.
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What I definitely see is they are being to be allowed to continue operations. Those operations are now creating crisis events for more and more countries. And like the US population, at some point a critical level will be reached. That is unless another event of some type triggers the broader crisis sooner.
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Different from this sociopathic group, but in a symbiotic relationship, are the Marxists JG has identified in the Whitehouse and Congress. I’d personally broaden the definition to Statists and lump in the Communists, Socialists, Neocons and any other authoritarian group. Perhaps, without quibbling, we can say the Marxists are leading the Authoritarians currently.
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So the Marxists are allowing the sociopaths to operate so as to weaken things until they can seize power. Except, as my March 7th post indicates, a primary element they are counting on, control of the military, appears to be weakening. And then there is the general “consent to govern” issue that is starting to grow.
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So many plans, so carefully laid, the very definition of central planning, keeps running into changing conditions. Which requires modification to the plan and time to implement the modifications. Time, which new events may not allow. Which does not stop the crisis that was planned from occurring. That part of things is far enough along that it will arrive. Riding through it and what comes out the other side, that remains in doubt.
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Preparation is to get through the crisis or at a minimum, have a better chance at doing so. Then, and only then, you get an opportunity to say what the other side might look like. Those that don’t make it through don’t get a vote. We should continue to look at new events with an eye to identifying “flags” like Rookie was asking for on February 18th. Some of you due to location, resources, time… only have the bug out option. So flags and discussion of it is a major part of what JG is doing with this site. And a few of us will chime in from time to time with a thought or two. But the thinking and acting, well that’s up to each individual.
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One final thought and I’ll make this blunt: The Opposition is playing for keeps. There will be no take-backs, do-overs or quite possibly mercy. This is for all the marbles and no holds are barred. To the boyz in charge, the ends justify the means with any and all means open to use.
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You need to be playing for keeps too and realize the ground rules they are operating from.
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Limit all US politicians to two terms.
One in office
One in prison
MRBIGMUTTS
10.03.10
02:01
Perspective–as usually I agree with all of what you have said and more 10 X 100%.
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Today I found out that Obama may prohibit FISHING, thats right FISHING. What he hopes to gain from this is fully beyond me but it falls right in line with what you said about the Marxists letting the sociopaths operate to weaken things. He is trying once again to ruin another segment of the economy as he did with Las Vegas and RV’s(Richmond,IN)
Read the article on banning fishing at Drudge.com and ESPN.
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Growing up I didnt not have a shrimp or any other seafood until I was 20 years old. Sure, I consumed trout and bass caught from nearby streams but no seafood, even frozen. Then all of sudden, I believe 1972 the bottom fell out of the beef market and I started seeing food establishments serving all kinds of fish. Then we had the medical community and the vegans telling us that beef was bad for you and do not eat it. The enviornmental wacko’s started attacking anyone eating beef in any form because to make a pound of meat it took 1500 gallons of H2O to make it.
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I do agree if you eat a large amount of meat you may have problems down the road but we also started having other things come into play such as more TV channels to watch with useless programming that kept many of us on in the chair watching only that. The marketers were very slick in their advertising and Americans bought hook, line and sinker. Now we have Video games doing the same thing and distracting even more Americans. Now we have a generation of children that have grown up inside a home. They have diseases and medical conditions that many of us older adults never had or even heard of growing up. All because they didnt get outside to play.
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I didnt go to school with anyone or never heard of anyone with ADHD or other behavioral problems. I graduated with 749 students and we only one person who was considered obese. Our teachers dealt with my behavior problems with a paddle and my parents did the same when I got home again. Believe me when I say that I ate many of my dinners off of a fireplace mantel because my butt hurt from the spankings.
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My point is that our parents dealt with issues the best way they saw fit. Were they always right, no, but show me someone that is. Then we had educated idiots like Dr. Spock coming in and telling our parents how to do it. It was all crap from start to finish and still is.
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The moment we as a nation allowed our government to come into our lives and dictate to us how to handle things is the point all of this starting falling apart and that has gotten us to where we are today.
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Now we dont deal with our children in a firm manner, we have to talk with them and use feeling words so they know what we are feeling and why. I am so grateful that my parents BUSTED my butt when I needed even if many in society felt I was too old to have it done. Sure I didnt like it, nobody does, but I can assure you that I didnt do what I did wrong again.
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We need to get back to that point as a nation. We need to BUST our governments ass and make them eat off the fireplace mantel as I did as a child. I do agree with you that we are playing for all of the marbles and many of us are not going to make it to the end. I do not wish harm on anyone but I will not stand back and watch everything that I have worked for and fought to protect by doing my time in the military go down the toilet or go to someone who has been popping out babies to get a welfare check. I will put all of my stuff in a pile and burn it to ashes before that happens. Piss on them and all that they stand for because their line of thinking is not my America or many others.
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I do like your idea of 2 terms for politicians, one in prison and one in office. Where do I sign up to be to be on that squad.
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I do think we will see riots and real chaos start in California first. I can see the Military being called out to quell the masses. God help us if they get the prisons broken into and all of those hardened criminals released onto the streets. I dont think they will be able to come eastward since they have many miles of desert to go thru to get out of there. They might go north and raise havoc on the West Coast for quite sometime before they are all contained and recaptured. The problem will be what to do with all of the survivors of it all. The cities will be burned down and there will be nothing left to return to. To rebuild the state in an earthquake and fire hazard zone is insane.
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I will end this by saying my friends and I do really enjoy your comments and we have learned alot. We love to discuss what you, JG and others have to say on this site. Keep’em coming, dont anyone stop making the comments. That even includes the comments that I dont agree with too. We all have the right to say them. All I am asking for is to allow me to say mine.
Califonria Doctor
11.03.10
07:04
@Mr.BigMutts and JG
Most people do not realize how close California was to activating a substantial public health emergency system in late 2009 during the H1N1 epidemic.
There were official county level and state level discussions about possible readiness for emergency triage systems.
The failing healthcare system in California was threatened with being overwhelmed if the H1N1 epidemic reached the level of the 1918 flu epidemic.
The situation in the early fall was bad and expanding, but in early October the nasal spray vaccines began arriving. Counties began mass immunization events.
I have critical comments about how these mass immunization events were handled, but there was certainly an impact in the spread of the disease.
The next stage of public health response in California (if the mass immunization failed and thousands were getting critically ill) would have been a mass triage system where staging centers were to be created.
These staging centers were to help triage people or hold people while others were sent to specific hospitals outside the area.
However, I informed my colleagues of quite a different concern. If the government began to demand evacuation of people from certain areas due to the severity of the epidemic, then it was my recommendation that our medical team leave California within 48-72 hours notice. I felt that it was more risky that we could be swept up in a forced work situation when we should escape that type of forced labor for the sake of our families and our lives.
MRBIGMUTTS
11.03.10
20:12
California Doctor-I dont know if you are aware of a woman named Jane Burgermeister. If you arent, you need to Google her name to see what she had reported last summer on concerning the H1N1 flu vaccine. Seems that this strain of Swine flu had three different strains of flu together. In nature this does not happen. She presents evidence that this was done in a Bio-weapons Lab using gene splicing techniques and the entire scare was a hoax. Now we have all heard of a second wave of flu that was supposed to hit us about FEB/MAR 2010. The second wave didnt happen either did it? This whole scheme of flu was cooked up by the drug companies to make money for them.
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IMHO, I strongly believe that the corporate criminals in both the GOP and DEM parties is trying to do whatever they can to take this country away from us and to put us under their control. They are destabilizing our country and getting to fight amongst ourselves over trival issues in hopes to keep us from the truth of what they are really doing.
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After researching the story about Obama wanting to ban our sport fishing I have in fact uncovered that our government intends to do just that. ESPN came out and said the Fishing Ban story was a hoax. Please GOOGLE “Marine Spatial Planning”. They claim they just want to get everyone together and decide how to best use our bodies of water and the contents within the most efficent way. Read the documents and you will found that they want to allocate people using these areas. That says to me the they plan to control where,when and how we fish.
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They give the reason that they want to control the depletion of some Bluefin Tuna. How come they cant just ban all sales of tuna? Plus, I know of no tuna species in the Great Lakes, do you?
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They are in fact out to ban all fishing. Please GOOGLE “fishing ban” and see how many websites come up with eco-terrorists libbies calling all of the shots, you will be amazed to say the least.
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ESPN had to come out and put some sheep back to bed on this issue by lying thru their teeth that a fishing ban was a hoax. I bet they even got a call from the WHITE HOUSE to do to call off the American people as to what is really going on.
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When you put your story, my story and all of the stories coming out of DC together you come away with strong notion that something is going on. Our government is lying to us on every front. They are lying to us in all of their statements. Why? Our government is up to no good and we the people are finding out about it quicker and quicker. They cannot keep this up.
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IMHO, everyone who is reading my comments should prepare themselves for a “false flag event”. I do not believe we will have elections this fall. I strongly feel, based on the information that I have read on the Internet, we will lose our access to the Internet at some point in the future.
The Cybersecurity Bill in Congress at this time gives the president the power to shut it down on his order. It may under the disguise to save the country from computer hackers. It is at this time when you and I cannot communicate across the great distance between us is when they will move to take our country down. No one will be able to get any information out to anyplace and that will provide them with the opportunity to go wherever they please and do whatever they want. They will say this group or that group was removed for national security reasons and not a another will be said about us.
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If you spend as much time on the Internet as I have and seen what I have seen you would find that our nation is under attack from within and its our people doing it.
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PREPARE FOR THE WORST AND HOPE FOR THE BEST FOR BAD TIMES ARE COMING TO AMERICA!